The real reason Boeing's new plane crashed twice

Javier Lopez
Javier Lopez

It is time for Boeing to reactivate the 717 program , if they wanted to survive

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Maple Leaf
Maple Leaf

The first crash was a disaster. The second crash spells the end for the Max. Time for Boeing to buy back this fleet and convert them to freighters.

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James Walker
James Walker

Again Boeing airlines put money before safety!

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TrappedbyFire
TrappedbyFire

TO The BOEING BOARD OF DIRECTORS: Time to act to "Up-grade" top management! The firm deserves Action !!! Thimk!! "Charity begins at home"!!

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Robert Smith
Robert Smith

I understand that all the pilots had to do was turn off the MCAS system to prevent the problem.

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First Name Last Name
First Name Last Name

The only problem is that the pilots were not aware of the system so were not looking for the "off" switch.

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MeBituman
MeBituman

The real question is the flying public ever going to trust this plane. I know I wouldn't.

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James
James

Ah, Vox... they know EVERYTHING...

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marc hayes
marc hayes

once again it took people dieing to fix a issue

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vannylee
vannylee

That's capitalism babe! Interest at any cost!

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Rolando Crisostomo
Rolando Crisostomo

"only" two hours training? It take two seconds to tell someone "hey this plane has software to correct the over pitch of the plane, don't stall it" ...done.

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Prof. Michael O. Zeee JCD ECS
Prof. Michael O. Zeee JCD ECS

Nothing we don't already know! Click-bait!

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Ricky717Captain Official
Ricky717Captain Official

Just 3 words. *AOA probes disagree* This is it.

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Marina G.
Marina G.

Titanic story all over again, but this time it happened twice

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ON YOUR ASS
ON YOUR ASS

Fake news by libtard commies. Pilots could of disabled the system and flown the plane by hand.

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Hiram Abiff
Hiram Abiff

YOU MEAN BOING PLANES ARE SUPPOSED TO FLY TO? NEVER THOUGHT OF THAT.

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Bryon Slatten
Bryon Slatten

Please share this video with your Congressional representatives.

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wayne Last
wayne Last

Boeing and FAA need be brought up on manslaughter . It’s no different than if I negligently designed and approved a car part.

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wayne Last
wayne Last

So this is another flaw in capitalism . No doubt FAA and Boeing execs had dollar signs over rule better judgement. Not to say capitalism should be eliminated but modified.

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Traian G.
Traian G.

Mother f....rs! Its all about money , they did not care how stupid was to move the engine up the wing , they could not accept that airbus was a better plane with a better design. From now on i’ll make sure every time i fly to avoid boeing planes even if the ticket cost more money , my life can’t have a price like boeing stupid planes and greed

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dotdot dot
dotdot dot

I'd be happy if airbus was the only major plane company that existed

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Bugler55
Bugler55

I wouldnt, competition ensures mistakes like this are punished.

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ted1091
ted1091

Outstanding video

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Dresden Black
Dresden Black

Should have just put bigger wheels on it for the extra ground clearance so simple a caveman could think of it.

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Akashavayu
Akashavayu

Is this just not MURDER! Premeditated and negligent! Good thing they are not poor or they might actually be charged and go to jail.

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kaito kid
kaito kid

There are 2 element / messages in this video that are worth highlighting. 1. "Greed is bad. Greedy people at the top of Boeing forced 'innovation' at an unrealistic time frame and with deadly consequences for the sake of profit. Greed at its worst." This is some thing I can stand behind. yes, this is an obvious case of a bunch of asshats making decisions looking at the stock market with one eye and the succes of it's competitor with the other, their customers being a mare afterthought. The 2nd element in this video, albeit a subtle one: "competition is bad. competition drove Boeing to do what they did, therefor competition is something to be discouraged. I find this to be troubling messages. It's fantastic that Boeing engineers tried their best to come up with a solutions to a hardware problem. they failed, but it's not the fault of competitiveness. it's the fault of greed. competitiveness is the reason why come that far with Aviation today. Competition is the best thing about capitalism. Look at rocketry before and after SpaceX, the difference is night and day.

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Bugler55
Bugler55

Re SpaceX, well yeah, because they had 40 years of free R&D to start with :P

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Cindy Arsenault
Cindy Arsenault

Crazy to think that when people are dying in plane crashes they are literally buying their death...

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helihobbit
helihobbit

Boeing = damned

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Grackle2012
Grackle2012

Why not just put a lift on the landing gear to achieve a higher ground clearance. Bigger wheels, something. Over engineering.

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I THE PREACHER
I THE PREACHER

https://youtu.be/UdlqftA7Y3s

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Adam Donovan
Adam Donovan

That's it for Boeing.....Boeing Boing GONE.....

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Jake Richardson
Jake Richardson

shouldnt somebody go to jail over this

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Hating on Truth
Hating on Truth

Wonder if this would have been a problem back when aircraft engines were located back of wing before the Mandela effect moved it to the front.

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AGZ8520
AGZ8520

And this is why Airbus is superior.

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fkennedy02
fkennedy02

The Americans are not going to hold their own to account for this so every other country involved should start legal proceedings against Boeing

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CamoLive
CamoLive

Lmfao “yeah lmao we wrote some defunct software, but here, we wrote some more, this one DEFINITELY won’t kill you :)”

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Paul Schneider
Paul Schneider

A design flaw fixed by software and more training. Do we believe it?

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Garry Butler
Garry Butler

Does anyone remember the crash of lauda air? The engine went into reverse thrust? Pilot was blamed coz Boeing didn't want to take any responsibility? Or what about Japan Airlines 747 with a shoddy repair by Boeing that caused the rear bulkhead to explode out killing over 500 people? Or am I missing something

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Jet Stream
Jet Stream

The original 737 was meant for shorter flights when the jumbos were used for long haul flights. Why try to modify a small 737 for longer flights? Come up with a new more efficient model to compete with Airbus.

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amit Singh
amit Singh

Airbus salute to you at least ur not playing with the lives of people who trust u

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Yugantar Bhasin
Yugantar Bhasin

People didn't die but I am sure Boeing did

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Ziko Zik
Ziko Zik

Capitalist Murica exists.. people die coz of greed.

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Nik Evans
Nik Evans

With hindsight they would of been better redesigning the axle/wheel assy. to get better ground clearance. So they could fit the new engine .

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Steven Horton
Steven Horton

Thank you

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cristina lexy
cristina lexy

Because is a very dodgy plane built on a hurry, they should stick with safest Jumbo 747 instead?

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Dyxuki
Dyxuki

just a side question. why wouldnt they make the wheels larger/longer so they can fit a bigger engine?

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Wolfclaw the death god loves Kittenface
Wolfclaw the death god loves Kittenface

I have been on the old style one it was amazing...I’m 12 now seeing this makes them greedy people and want people to die

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Antoine Swans
Antoine Swans

The Boeing 737 Max 8 Roulette

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Darth Xial
Darth Xial

Once is a coincidence. Twice is negligence. And a third would be a conspiracy.

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Gonzalo Cabrejas Moya
Gonzalo Cabrejas Moya

This report is quite misleading in multiple ways to fit that narrative that boeing is a greedy company which lied purposefully hid data on their plane, way before any investigation concluded thus.

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ash0787
ash0787

because the mandela effect made the engines on all planes move further forward, and the wings became narrower.

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Erik_lone_wolf Snip
Erik_lone_wolf Snip

I rather travel by car than by plane

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Bruce G
Bruce G

corporate greed = disaster. We're wise to you CEO's, we got your number...bruce

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Armin S
Armin S

VW got sued by the USA for *exhaust gas* . Time for Europe and the world to sue Boeing for homicide.

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hgrgic
hgrgic

Excellent explanation. Thank you.

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PfropfNo1
PfropfNo1

Can anyone explain why putting the engine higher pulls the nose up? In my understanding putting the engine up shortens the lever which should result in the opposite behavior. Putting the engine down like airbus did should increase lever and pull the nose up. Also i don’t understand how the pitch was determined by a single sensor. Every system usually has 2 redundancies in an aircraft. My fu****ng Smartphone has 3 different sensors to measure pitch: acceleration sensor (measures how your phone is tilted, for example flips screen if you turn it around), GPS (gives you speed and direction. From (upward)direction should be easy to get pitch), pressure sensor (it can measure altitude very accurately (+ - 1m), with change of altitude you can calculate pitch (how fast plane is rising).) How did MCAS only have 1 sensor? That’s what drives me crazy. And it’s nice to reduce the risk of Stall automatically. But how is there no software to detect if the plane is crashing in the ground or not?!?? I mean there are autopilots in planes for decades and they don’t crush planes into the ground. I just don’t understand this. There is nothing wrong with the basic idea of MCAS but it it feels like an intern designed it.

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Douglas Rodrigues
Douglas Rodrigues

Why introduce yet another feature suseptable to computer failure? There is too much automation / less pilot control on the new planes. Airbus, in particular, has suffered many crashes because of computer glitches. I.e. does your PC at home ever malfunction? Would you trust you life to your PC. Hell no, but the electronic nerds want to have more computer authority in airplanes. If the nose pitches up on takeoff, why not just train the pilot to anticipate and compensate for that pitch up with elevator trim? It would add slightly to the pilot's workload but at least there wouldn't be another automatic system that obviously can fail.

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John Donaldson
John Donaldson

USA was LAST to ground the plane = FAA spineless bastards

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typeOhh
typeOhh

Greed...

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Aava Vehvilainen
Aava Vehvilainen

Why did it have to be Ethiopia I love that country

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Chef Pee Pee
Chef Pee Pee

Boeing are traitors who want money.

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Marcosaur03
Marcosaur03

Plane Crash Podcast covered these two crashes and came to a similar conclusion.

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thingy
thingy

wow being, wow.

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Princeofcups Poc
Princeofcups Poc

But don't worry. The executives that pushed it through already spent their massive bonuses, and are retired living on a beach somewhere. I hope the families of the dead can sleep soundly now. Capitalism at its best, with NO accountability.

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Leify Boy
Leify Boy

Okay so I’ve watched a few videos about this and from what I see there are thousands of these planes but only these two crashed? And it wasn’t even the first flight for either of them.... still the fact that they hid mcas from pilots is enough for them to pay.

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Zero Hour
Zero Hour

The FAA admin is filled with former or current Boeing executives. FAA streamlined it because it’s an American company, so they gotta “win” even if that means people’s lives. Look at the 787s, they didn’t fix the lithium battery issue, they just made a better box to prevent explosion. Fast tracked junk

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KKB1976
KKB1976

Death penalty for everybody knew and didn't do anything...

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nTzT
nTzT

Flying safe btw, idiots.

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Ronald McCormick
Ronald McCormick

Very disappointing Boeing. Time to design a new jet. And this time around, grab your balls and tell fossil fuel industries where they can stick it when you include new technologies that heretofore have been sequestered or forbidden.

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Jeff Stanley
Jeff Stanley

Boeing screws up royally, killing people, so naturally it's time to cue the brain dead Vox viewers to crawl out of the woodwork and pin the blame on "the evils of capitalism." What you fail to recognize is that it is free-market capitalism which guarantees that Boeing will pay for its negligence THROUGH THE NOSE by losing multi-billions in sales to Aerobus. FOOLS! But the really-and-truly hilarious thing about you AOC voters is that you think that, if we can just do away with capitalism, THEN PLANES WILL NO LONGER CRASH!

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JoeL
JoeL

I already HATE flying. Now I'm really freaked out about it. Ughhhh...

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Pantheragem
Pantheragem

I just don't do it. Haven't since 1996. Statistics involving air travel are skewed anyway.

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Bule British
Bule British

Mass murder lock up all those involved in hiding this.

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Dedi Syafutra
Dedi Syafutra

I'm from Indonesia, we don't know what to do, Boeing Ignorant! 🤕🤕🤕😔😔😔😔😔😔😔😔😔

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Mr2pint
Mr2pint

it's all fixed now we can relax I want to see the United States of America sanction those countries that have cancelled orders...

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PotatoHype71
PotatoHype71

Like downloading more RAM....

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Cool Pipenator
Cool Pipenator

Just be weary of VOX, they are anti American.

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Philip Smith
Philip Smith

The fundamental problem is that because of the design of the tailplane there is insufficient control authority to push the nose down against the pitch up moment of the more powerful engines. A tailplane redesign would require a full certification of effectively a new type which would have taken much longer and cost more, leaving the market for Airbus to dominate. So a new system, MCAS, is introduced that has more authority than the controls alone. But this system relies on the signal from a single sensor. There are two of these sensors, it would be possible to arrange that both sensors had to show a problem before the MCAS operates. But then it might not operate when it should. A third sensor could solve this, MCAS only operating when at least two show a problem. More complicated, more time needed to develop and certify it. The bottom line is that Boeing knowingly cut corners in the rush to get to market. They ignored warnings from experienced pilots flying the aircraft. That killed hundreds of people. It is costing airlines that trusted Boeing's promises about the aircraft a fortune. Boeing's solution? A software fix. That won't fix the tailplane.

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Philip Smith
Philip Smith

+Jeff Stanley you are the one making a fool of yourself. I spent 40 years as a big jet pilot, technical rep and pilot expert consultant to Eurocontrol. What is your aviation background?

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Jeff Stanley
Jeff Stanley

I don't think you know as much as you pretend to know. Try reading something by someone who actually does know what he's talking about, and maybe in the future you won't make a fool out of yourself in public again. https://www.satcom.guru/2019/04/stabilizer-trim-loads-and-range.html

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M40101
M40101

They should do a movie about the cover up and the criminal actions of Boeing who led to this tragedies.

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John Middleditch
John Middleditch

Just before this I watched an Al Jazeera documentary on the 787 and the delays. Put the two together and your questions will be answered.

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eyestoenvy
eyestoenvy

Bring back the dam 757 hotrod 🚀 ✈️ 🚀

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Misty Stewart
Misty Stewart

Problem with capitalism, part 12, 957

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Don MacQuarrie
Don MacQuarrie

Frankenplane

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Jeremy Topp
Jeremy Topp

Boeing = we care about “ our profits more then your safety “ period!!!

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fred flintstone
fred flintstone

MONEY is what makes us expendable to the corporations, lawyers and bankers. AIRBUS killed everyone until they figured out their damn computer was stalling the engines

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Nişancı
Nişancı

There's a reason why this saying exists "if it's boeing I'm not going"

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2wheelvloggers
2wheelvloggers

Sailors and soldiers of the US military know that you are following unlawful orders from your commander, it is not mutiny when you refuse to follow unlawful orders, you are doing the duty you swore an oath to. You are being led to your death not for the preservation of your country, but by a tyrant who has no respect for your life or the lives of others.

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Orcinus1967
Orcinus1967

"Sully" Sullenberger weighed in on the Ethiopian crash. He said a pilot with only 200 hours should not be the captain. Not enough time.

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Joe De Tau
Joe De Tau

These things often happen beczuse "managers" don't listen to engineers.

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Joe De Tau
Joe De Tau

And they want to make self-driving cars now. I'm never going to trust my life to Microsoft.

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EAW
EAW

M.C.A.S. 'May Crash And Slaughter' everyone on board.

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Bad Grandpa
Bad Grandpa

Well said sir!!

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Mavis V
Mavis V

w

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Kofi Annan
Kofi Annan

The important thing is that everyone made great money and everyone had a great time. Thanks Obama !

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Kofi Annan
Kofi Annan

Boeing and the Catholic Church will burn in hell. Sad.

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Siavoush Avesta
Siavoush Avesta

capitalism at its finest

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Anirban Dey
Anirban Dey

Boeing is a money hungry trash company, Airbus people are way more skilled.

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sudhisira
sudhisira

I once had a trainee work on a software project with me. The software had to compute a particular percentage number. Obviously, that number could not be more than 100% But he was getting numbers higher than 100%! So, his fix was : if (percentage > 100.0) then percentage = 100.0 Neat! (except that the actual problem was still there, of course).

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dan cooper
dan cooper

Now what do you Republibum Conservatards have to say now? Half senile Ronny Reagan: "Government IS the problem". So lets push aside the evil govt regulaters, let the companies self-regulate and we'll get free-market utopia, right? This goes on big-time with the pharma industry and its already had lethal results.

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Mark Budde
Mark Budde

This video states that mounting the new engines higher on the 737 wing resulted in a greater tendency to pitch nose up, compared to older 737's with low mounted engines. Mounting the engines higher and closer the the center of mass should result in less nose up pitching tendency, unless the new engine is of vastly higher thrust. If it is true that this new 737 model has a higher tendency to pitch up when thrust is increased, there must be other factors in play like different weight and balance, center of lift position, angle of engine mount, etc. Simply mounting the engines higher should reduce (not increase) nose up tendency, all other things being equal.

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Heidi Karinen
Heidi Karinen

Boeing released the 737 Max to fly on probability. Did they not learn about the stuck rudder. It would have been common sense to let the pilots to know how to manually trim the stabilizers. But then the question is that does 737 Max require the extensive training to learn to fly it without the MCAS.

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TheNetatube
TheNetatube

ma come parla, lei salvinin non sembra un ministro ma un gangster, ste cazzo di macchine mi girano i coglioni , e aggiungici anche un porcozzio che prendi il voto del mio ortolano

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chris peter
chris peter

In the news ,what is happening throughout the world natural disasters,disastrous war in Syria killing about half a million people since the conflict started the destruction and the terrible suffering of the Syrian children ,srilanka ,conflict with boko haram in Nigeria, disastrous war in Yemen,south Sudan,Afganistan,Pakistan,Libya,Heat wave in india killing thousands,uncommonly people dying throughout the world ,don’t you feel there is something unusual recently ,does that mean anything to you? In the Bible Jesus said ,when he is about to come, not only such things will happen but the next pulse of such things will be stronger. (matthew 24:6-8) He also said that finally there will be a crisis through out the world that has never been before and will Not be after(matthew 24:21) Imagine the evil things that have happened through out the world up to now,world war I & II ,what Hitler did to the Jews people(holocaust),atomic bomb dropped in heroshima and negasaki,famine in different parts of the world ,several natural disasters etc…,but non of these match what is about to come ,according to the bible. He is coming soon !he is at the door!!are you ready? He loves you and he wants to save you. The Bible says, "God so loved the world that He gave His one and only Son, that whoever believes in Him shall not perish, but have eternal life" If you do not accept him, according to the bible, your destination will be hell, eternal suffering!! God reaches out in love to you and wants you to be His child. "As many as received Him, to them He gave the right to become children of God, even to those who believe on His name." You can choose to ask Jesus Christ to forgive your sins and come in to your life as your Lord and Savior. If you want to accept Christ as your Savior and turn from your sins, you can ask Him to be your Savior and Lord by praying a prayer like this: "Lord Jesus, I believe you are the Son of God. Thank you for dying on the cross for my sins. Please forgive my sins and give me the gift of eternal life. I ask you in to my life and heart to be my Lord and Savior. I want to serve you always." Did you pray this prayer? IF YES please visit http://www.godlife.com/en/30-day-next-steps/introduction

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redeemed toremain
redeemed toremain

wow what an eye opener, Boeing you basically lied, you put a band aid on a gaping wound , tried to pose as a top product but failed to just do it right, Lance Bakken could have made you new landing gear.

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